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Empowering Information from Dr David Price on How to Protect Yourself from Covid-19
One of the most important things I’ve learned in life is if you have a problem, obtaining knowledge about a subject and taking responsibility yourself for the outcome will allow you to control the situation to the outcome you desire. Not getting the correct information, or leaving things in the hands of others often doesn’t get the result you might want.
I demonstrated the workability of this for forty years as I (using my maiden name Debra Lynn Dadd) helped millions improve their health by eliminating exposures to toxic chemicals in their homes. I did the research to find out what chemicals were in products that were making people sick, found products that didn’t contain those chemicals, and when people followed my instructions, their symptoms disappeared and their health improved.
Now we are faced with an unprecedented situation worldwide where coronavirus CoVid-19 is on a rampage. Yes, there is a problem. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a solution.
Earlier this week I learned of recommendations made by Dr. David Price, a critical care pulmonologist caring for CoVID-19 patients all day in NYC at Weill Cornell Hospital. He says:
[This information is] incredibly empowering.
As I’ve been in the hospital over the last two days,
the thing that makes me smile is
I actually know now that I won’t get this disease.
Because I know how to protect myself.
Click on the video at the top of this post to watch the full 57-minute version.
Below I have edited a transcript that I made so you can get the information quickly and in writing for future reference.
Here is a link to the entire transcript, unedited.
Dr. David Price - Full Interview
When I watched this video a few nights ago, I decided to get up the following morning and type up a summary to make it easier to get this information out into the world. You can read my notes below, but please also watch the video if you have time.
This is the single most useful source of information on Covid-19 that I’ve seen. Dr Price is treating patients with CoVID-19 in the ICU every day and speaks from his firsthand experience.
This is the data everyone needs to know now, so please pass it on to others.
As of Thursday morning, officials said 1,941 people had died in the state of New York, with 83,712 positive CoVID-19 cases. More than half of those cases are in New York City. Now on Saturday afternoon, the numbers are 3,565 dead, with 630 dying in the past 24 hours.
Here is the website where I am following the numbers worldwide
According to the above reference, five days ago the total deaths from covid-19 per 1 million population in the USA was 8. Thursday it was 15. Today, two days later, it is 25.
Here is a simple chart for USA cases/deaths/recovered that shows both numbers and a chart that shows the rapid increase https://virusncov.com/covid-statistics/usa
I know the numbers and the evening news sound scary.
But Dr. David Price empowers us with simple steps each one of us can do to stay safe. These are the REAL recommendations from an experienced medical doctor who is treating covid-19 patients all day long.
Dr. David Price on How to Protect Yourself and Your Family from Coronona Virus CoVID-19
[This is my short version of the most important points]
There’s kind of a desire to scare people into getting serious, but I think there is a second kind of feeling out there and this is what I’m feeling right now…doctors like myself are in a very unique position to actually empower people right now. What I mean by empower is to learn about this disease…the reason I wanted to have this call is because I don’t want you guys to be scared. We’re three months into this in the medical world and we understand this disease. I’m going to go through ways to protect your family and then what to do if and when someone gets covid and how we can protect our circle.
For the first time in a while I’m actually NOT scared, so I’m going to share with you why that is.
Here’s a quick introduction of what is going on in New York.
I work at the premier hospital in New York City. It’s a 1200 bed hospital. What I do all day long is see people with Covid-19. But we’re learning. We know a lot. What I want you guys to know is that every single day we’re getting better, we know more, and I am confident that the stuff I can tell you today should make you guys feel like when this comes to your community that you don’t have to be scared and you can protect your family.
What is CoVID-19?
This is a virus. It’s from what we would colloquially think of as the “common cold” family, the coronavirus family. But what is unique is that the human body has never seen this virus before. It obviously started in Wuhan, the thought is that it came from an animal and then made it’s way into the human body for the first time.
What does this disease look like?
What people commonly have is they have fever. And then they have cough. And then they have sore throat. And when they get this the virus goes through their entire body and what we have found is that the most likely place that this will affect is your lungs. People will commonly have cough, but for about 80% of people, you just don’t feel good. The most common thing is you have a mild cough, maybe you have a little headache.
The disease lasts, from what we’re seeing, between 5 to 7 to 14 days. That’s probably the best, accurate description. Some people who have a mild disease, by about day 5, are starting to feel better. And then, people who aren’t feeling better usually start to get short of breath around days 3 to 5. And then, they start to feel better around that 7-day mark.
How to Protect Your Family
I think we’ve learned a lot and I want to share all the things we’ve learned so far.
The first thing is how do you get covid?
I think this is really important and we’ve really learned a lot over the last weeks to months about how you can get this disease.
The overarching theme is
* sustained contact with
* someone who has this disease (which is the vast majority is people with fever and aches or someone who is going to get symptoms of this disease in the next 1-2 days).
The way that you get this is the transmission of the virus almost exclusively from your hands to your face. So, its’ either into your eyes, into your nose, or into your mouth.
So, there’s a lot of talk about getting it through contact—hands to face. There’s also a small thought that it can be aerosolized, that it can kind of exist a little bit in the air. The thought at this point is that you actually have to have very long, sustained contact with someone. And I’m talking about over 15 to 30 minutes in an unprotected environment meaning in a very enclosed room without any type of mask for you to get it that way.
The overwhelmingly majority of people are getting this by physically touching someone who has this disease or who will develop it over the next 1 to 2 days, and then touching their face.
That actually I think is incredibly empowering. As I’ve been in the hospital over the last two days, the thing that makes me smile a little bit is that I actually know now that I won’t get this disease because I know how to protect myself.
And so, I just want to give you guys a few very, very practical tips for how to protect yourself.
Before I get to that—A simple statement of fact…
CoVID is in your community.
I’m going to say that again. Whether you live in Texas, whether you live in Tennessee, whether you live in Florida, it is in your community right now. That is not to scare you. That is just to tell you, so that you can then take the steps that I’m talking about and not be scared.
The first step which I think is incredibly clear is to become a hand nazi! Know where your hands are, and know that they’re clean at all times. So, very simply, what this means for me in the city is that I walk around with Purell [hand sanitizer].
And so, when I leave my apartment, everything that I see that I’m going to touch, I make sure that I Purell first. So when I leave my apartment door, and I go to the elevator, it’s okay if I touch it with my hand… but then I Purell. And when I go downstairs, and I open the door, it’s okay to touch the door. You can open it with your elbow. But if you touch the door, then I make sure I Purell.
So, we know that if you keep your hands clean, then you’re not going to get this.
The second point is that this is NOT a disease that we’re getting because someone is sick and touched something, and then an entire community of 10 people get it because they touched that. It’s mostly from sustained contact with people who have CoVID19.
Out of an abundance of caution, we also make sure that everything we touched, we’re cleaning our hands. So that’s the first thing. Become a hand nazi! Everything you know about your hand, just keep them clean, and you will not get this disease.
The second thing is you have to start psychologically working on the connection between your hands and your face. I’m terrible at this. I touch my face all the time—literally all the time! You don’t even realize it. You move your hand, you scratch your nose. And so the virus has taken advantage of this. The reason why everyone gets this disease is because someone at a party has this, and you shake their hand… and then you touch your face. It’s that simple. That is how you get this disease.
So, what does that mean? I think there’s two practical things that you can do. One is just… the start can be aware of when you touch your face.
Atul Gawande who is a Harvard-trained surgeon (who I think that’s very famous) actually has a recommendation... for people to just start wearing masks. And the idea is NOT that the mask is going to prevent you from getting CoVID because as I’ve said, it’s not a disease that you’re most likely getting from the air. The reason to put on a mask is because—and I do this in the hospital—you just stop touching your face.
And so, what I would recommend is now, when you’re leaving your house, wear a mask.
And I think those two things combined is incredibly powerful and will prevent the transmission of the disease into your family in 99% of cases—to know your hands are clean, and to not touch your face, period.
There are going to be an obscure 0.01% of patients who’ll get it and we’ll just never know. But I think for you, that is an incredibly important way to protect yourself.
Three, you don’t need a medical mask. These masks that people are wearing are not protecting them from getting the disease. and frontline healthcare workers need these masks right now.
That’s not to say don’t wear a medical mask. If you have one, that’s great. Put it on. But it doesn’t mean you have to have a wild supply of mask or N95’s or anything like that. The general community has zero need for an N95 mask… zero!
In the hospital where all I do is take care of patients with CoVID19, I only wear a mask, an N95 mask, if I’m in the room with that patient doing something that’s going to make them have aerosolization of the virus. That is no one in the community.
The fourth thing that I’ll say—which is the thing that the government is talking about and kind of is the same principle—just distance yourself. So this is incredibly fascinating in New York City now, is that nobody is going within 3 or 6 ft. of each other. And it actually has not changed our life that much.
And so, I think when you go to the pharmacy because people are going to the pharmacy now, you don’t have to wait directly in line with someone. You can stand a couple of feet back.
So that’s the nitty-gritty of not how to give yourself this disease or get it from your community where it is at this time.
So, I think when you understand those four rules, the next thing that I think is so important becomes true.
You don’t have to be scared out of the outside world now. You don’t have to be scared of your neighbor. And I’ve actually found that to be incredibly liberating right now.
So, in New York City, we’re receiving food from delivery men. We have to go outside to the grocery store. It’s a time in the world when we’re all really scared. And I think what makes it worse is when you go outside, you look and think that the person next to you is going to somehow harm you or harm your family.
When you know that the only way you’re going to get this disease is if your hands is dirty, and that if you touch your face, and that if you are way too close to that person, that becomes incredibly liberating. And then, all of a sudden, the person at the store is not your enemy. They’re someone who’s going through this with you. The delivery person is not your enemy. They’re a hero. They’re going out and delivering food at a time when there’s a communicable disease that they do not understand. The mailman is a hero. These are people that we have to acknowledge the same way we’re acknowledging and celebrating healthcare providers.
When you understand this disease and know exactly what to do to prevent getting it, then it allows us for the next couple of weeks to months to be able to sustain the system that we have [which means they can maintain the medical system without overwhelming it]. We have to be able to have mail. We have to be able to get delivery in New York City. It’s the only way we eat. But if you can protect yourself, and you know your family is safe, then I think that’s empowering.
Speaking of distancing yourself...
Here is a chart that shows the differences in numbers between the total cases in the San Francisco Bay Area and the total cases in New York City. On March 15 both areas had the same number of cases. Ten days later, the number of cases in San Francscio rose only slightly, whereas the numbers in New York increased exponentially. The difference? Here in the San Francisco Bay Area we were ordered to shelter-in-place on March 16. The lesson here: even if you are not ordered to stay home, STAY HOME!
[In addition] You have to shrink your social circle. What does that mean?
So, in our family, I think you guys know that my parents live on a farm. We have a lot of traffic to the farm. We have families who come and see the horses, who ride the horses. But you have to understand that every person, every one of those people, have potentially two or three other contacts who had two or three other contacts.
And so, what I would highly encourage you guys to do as the country is shutting down is find your isolation group, find your group of three people or four people, your family, and that is it!
The people who are going to get CoVID-19 are people who are maintaining large social circles at this point.
So, what did that mean for my family? Jean and our kids and our mom are on the farm. They’re at the Hopewell House. And that is exclusively the social circle that they’re circling in. They talk to their family every day. They see people through Facetime. But there’s no one coming in and out of the house.
They can still go to the store. And you can go to the store without any fear because you know, if you wash your hands, and you don’t touch your face, you’re not going to get this disease.
It’s very important at this point to keep your social circle small. Don’t be going to the Elks Club. Don’t be putting yourself in a situation where you have a lot of contact with a lot of people because it’s just a vulnerability. You don’t know that the person at the farm who you slapped hands with, two days later, will not have this disease because then that you’re going to have to socially isolate at that point even more.
What do you do if you get this disease? If you listen to nothing else through this entire thing, just please listen to this part.
In Wuhan, China, throughout the world, the vast majority of spread with CoVID19 is through home and family transmission.
I’ll say that again. Throughout the world, the way this is transmitted is from husband to wife, father to son, daughter to brother… whatever!
That’s incredibly scary. But it’s also something that, if you understand the rules, it is incredibly empowering.
So, what do you do?
If you develop a fever, and you are otherwise fine, stay at home and isolate yourself from your family. So what does that mean? It’s just simply about the same rules—about your hands and touching your face. You don’t want sustained contact with the person who’s sick to the point where you’re going to be able to pick this up off of surfaces or off your person and then touch your face.
So, what are people recommending? If you’re able, have the person in a separate room. If you’re able, have the person who’s sick have their own bathroom.
If the person has to come out and interact with people in the family, this is a perfect indication for one medical mask. And the reason is you want to put the mask on the person who’s sick.
And so, in our apartment, if I was sick and I had to come out and interact with my family, before I would leave the bedroom, I’d wash my hands, I would put on a mask, and then I would go out, and maybe I would sit down and eat food at the table.
And then, after that, when I was done, I would eat the food. I would put it in the sink. I would make sure that anything I touched—which is a very simple area on the table—is just washed. And then, I would go back to my room.
And so, the point is to not have sustained contact with someone in your home who has this disease. You’re going to want to take care of them. You’re going to want to be in and out of there: “How are you doing?”, checking their temperature. Don’t do it. If you’re touching the temperature probe constantly to their mouth, that is where the disease exists. And then, you’re going to get it on your hands, then you’re going to touch your face.
And so, you shouldn't be scared to stay at home with your family with a fever if you have CoVID19. The vast majority of people are going to have a fever, body aches, they feel like shit for three to five days, they feel a little less shit on seven… and then they’re going to start to feel better.
You can start interacting with your family more as you feel better, as your fever is gone. But you’re still going to be vigilant. You’re going to be washing your hands. You’re going to be a lot more confident 20 days out from the disease than you are 10 days off of the disease.
The current recommendation from the CDC is that, if I get sick, and if I’m feeling better, I can put on a mask and go to work. And so I think that that is a good indication. That’s when you can start interacting with your family. If you have CoVID, and you’ve recovered, and you’ve isolated in your room for 7 days, and you’ve been able to get food, and when you’ve been with your family, you’ve worn a mask, and you’re feeling better… come back out to your family’s life. Keep a mask on. And wash your hands.
And so, I think that that is a very simple way to do it.
I’m about to get to questions. I just want to make a few other small points because this is some stuff that’s come up that’s relevant in New York City.
What do I do if I have a mild cold?
Given how rampant CoVID19 is at this point, I think if you have something that feels like a cold, or you feel like you’re getting sick, just take the precautions like you have CoVID19 for 1 to 2 days. If in 1 to 2 days, you’re feeling much better, and this is like the thousand other colds that you’ve had in the past year because you have kids, you don’t have CoVID19. And then, you can go back to your completely normal “living at home” life with your family.
So, I think it’s just important. The place we get into danger is people being too cavalier when they’re developing symptoms and exposing their family too early. And then, when they get fevers, and they’re staying at home, they’re having too much interaction with your family.
You can have CoVID19 in your house and everyone else not get it and be protected and be completely safe.
There are a couple of exceptions to that, and I think this is important—if you have a vulnerable population in your family. So if you’re living with your lovely 95-year old grandmother, if there’s someone in your house who had recent chemotherapy and someone in the house get sick, you need to find another living arrangement for that patient, or practice incredibly, incredibly strict isolation of that family member. We know that the older population is the sickest population when they get this disease.
And so, that is the one caveat to the, yeah, it’s safe to stay home with your family—is if you have someone who’s incredibly vulnerable. You have to set up a situation in your house where they’re completely isolated from the person who is sick. Maybe you could have another person take care of that family in your house, so you have no interaction.
But simply being in the home with someone with CoVID19 will not get you the disease. It goes back to the same three principles—it’s touching a person or a person who has CoVID19, and then touching your face.
When do you go to the hospital?
I think probably the question that a lot of people are asking is “If I get CoVID19 and I feel short of breath, am I just going to go the hospital and die?” This is where I’m probably the most qualified person in the country to comment on, what it looks when people are coming into the hospital and are sick.
If you’re feeling short of breath, come to the hospital. That is the rule. That is the clearest thing. It’s not “I have a fever.” It’s not “I think I have CoVID19.” It’s not “I can’t stop having those body aches.”
It’s “I feel short of breath when I go up to go to the bathroom.” Those are people that should come to the hospital and be evaluated.
At Cornell right now, what we’re doing is a lot of the people that come to the emergency room, we’re sending home to live out the 4 or 5 days of their disease so that they can feel better. And we say, “Oh, you look completely fine. Go home.”
But what we’re also seeing is that the people who feel short of breath who come to the hospital, some of them go on to the floor and just have short of breath for 5 to 6 to 7 days, and then they go home.
So, of the entire population of people who get CoVID19, about 10% need to go to the hospital because they get short of breath.
And of the 10% who are coming to the hospital, about 1% to 2% to 3% of those are required admission to the ICU’s and to be put on a ventilator.
So what happens when people get put on ventilators? The vast majority of people, an overwhelming majority of people, come off the ventilator. And they usually come off the ventilator 7 to 10 days later.
But I think the important thing for you guys to know is that going to the hospital is not a death sentence. It’s a safe place for you to be. Go to the hospital when you’re short of breath. Don’t go to the hospital just because you have CoVID19.
This is the end of Dr Price’s presentation, but the video goes on with Q&A.